Toni aka TheQuiltingPirate mentioned using her Knifty Knitter in a post. I had never heard of a Knifty Knitter but I checked it out and my daughter set me up with all of these looms. Within 3 hrs I had a hat done that would fit Nikolas. I was very impressed. After chatting with Toni through emails now I know how to make a scraf using my round loom. Now I never said the first hat was perfect the edge of the hat came out loopy and I'm hoping I can figure out a way to save the hate as I thought the red and white yarn made a pretty pattern.